Wellness Inspired Podcast
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True Prosperity for High Performers: Redefining Success Beyond Financial Goals with Keveney Avila
In this episode of the Wellness Inspired Podcast, I sit down with Keveney Avila, a former attorney turned prosperity mentor for high performers, to explore what it really means to achieve true prosperity—beyond financial success.
Keveney shares how leaving a thriving legal career led her to energy work, spiritual alignment, and building a life that integrates health, relationships, and inner fulfillment.
If you're a high-achieving professional feeling burned out, stuck, or craving deeper meaning, this conversation will help you rethink success through the lens of clarity, creativity, and soul alignment.
In this episode, you’ll discover:
- Why prosperity is more than money: redefining success holistically
- Keveney’s journey from law to spiritual mentorship and energy clearing
- How to identify and release energy blocks that hinder personal and professional growth
- The concept of “soul esteem” and why it’s more powerful than self-esteem
- Insights into Keveney’s P-Suite Mentorship for high performers ready to scale with ease and alignment
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Hello wellness friends. Welcome back to another episode of the Wellness Inspired Podcast, a place where you can find inspiration, motivation and empowerment in the pursuit of a wellness lifestyle. I'm your host, sherri Davidson. I'm a wellness coach, acupuncturist, trail runner and former interior designer in Houston, texas, and I am deeply passionate about health and wellbeing. And, as always, I'm here with my co-host, finn, and if you're new to the podcast, finn is my Terrier, mixed Rescue Dog, trail runner and loyal companion. He is also a therapy dog and greeter at Element 5, acupuncture and Wellness.
Speaker 1:In this episode, I sit down with Keveni Avila, a former attorney who traded courtroom wins for soulful alignment. After building a successful career, keveny hit a breaking point that led her to walk away from the shoulds and follow something deeper. Now a prosperity mentor and spiritual director, she blends ancient energy practices, modern science and intuitive wisdom to help high achievers redefine success on their own terms. In this episode, we'll explore the wake-up call that shifted everything, what prosperity really means, and I'll give you a little hint. It's not just about money her P-suite mentorship and how it helps ambitious minds find clarity, creativity and flow. Also, we'll talk about how mastering your energy changes everything from your health to your relationships. I'm excited to share this conversation with you. This one is for anyone ready to tune out the noise and live from a place of grounded purpose. Let's dive in. Hi Keveny, welcome to the podcast again.
Speaker 2:I'm glad to be here again.
Speaker 1:You know I went back and checked last time we talked I said you were my second episode because you've been on the podcast before and I went back and checked you were my first.
Speaker 2:Oh fun.
Speaker 1:So my first episode, and it's been a while since I've interviewed people and you're my first person to start interviewing again- Okay, well, there's a pattern here. There's a pattern. There's a pattern. Well, I'd like to. What's up?
Speaker 2:It's exciting.
Speaker 1:It is exciting. So thank you for coming back on. You're a friend and I guess I met you four years ago. Five years ago, I think, I met you in 2020.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1:Because I think it was BNI and I started that in the beginning of 2020.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 2020 was the BNI year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then we shut down. Well, I just want to give you a brief introduction. You are a spiritual director and animal communicator. You are a mentor for high performers who are outwardly successful but quietly stuck. Your work is rooted in clarity, energy and aligned prosperity. Without the hustle or fluff, and with the upcoming launch of your nine-month mentorship program, the P-Suite, I think this episode is a great space to explore what real prosperity looks like and why so many driven people still feel like there's something missing. So if you'd like to introduce yourself, yeah, just tell people who you are.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so my background I practiced law for 10 years and I created a lot of success. Outwardly, I had a great husband, a great house, I had a great job. Internally, I was angry, I was miserable, I was a lot of things that were not great and an incident with my dog happened and I had sort of this mystical experience and I knew that I needed to go back to what I knew as a kid, which was you know, I say energy is my first language. I remember seeing energy, moving energy before. I remember walking, talking, and so I brought my dog home from the vet against the orders. I spent nine days playing with energy. She recovered miraculously and I left corporate.
Speaker 2:And so for the last well, since 2016, so for the last however many years that is, nine years maybe I have been doing prosperity mentoring for high performers who have created success in their job or their career. However, other things have become fractured, broken, so they've sacrificed their health, their relationships, mental health, physical health, their family, and I also help entrepreneurs who have a great service, have a great product, but they need more clients or they need to create a different level of success and scale, and there are some things holding them back. So I work with high performers to either create harmony in their J-O-B and keep that J-O-B, or to kick the J-O-B and monetize their passion.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so how did you know in that moment? So I know you had this mystical experience with your dog and then how did you bridge that gap between that moment and then knowing that you wanted to be a mentor, like a spiritual mentor, for high driven entrepreneurs?
Speaker 2:So it kind of happened for me. I left corporate thinking I'm going to work with animals, I'm going to do animal healing, energy healing. What I learned was animals are? They're just energetic sponges, they're like kiddos, right, they take on our stuff. And so I realized pretty quickly that people would come to me for their animals. And when I started to work with the humans, the animals behavioral issues, physical sickness, whatever it was started to disappear, and so the animals were sort of the conduit into the healing with the humans. And then what happened was, you know, I created more.
Speaker 2:I mean, I was happier, I was healthier, I was in a much better place, but I also created more money, success my first year as an entrepreneur than I ever did in all of the various corporate jobs I had, and so, you know, most of my friends were attorneys, still are attorneys, and my husband's in corporate finance. So he had a lot of friends that were CPAs. You know, most of my friends were attorneys, still are attorneys, and my husband's in corporate finance. So he had a lot of friends that were CPAs you know, and people who had MBAs, and so everyone in my kind of inner circle started asking wait a minute, you made more money doing this thing you do with animals that they all kind of laughed about than you did working with us, right, and I said yes, and so they wanted to know how. So that's how it evolved into helping other initial. I mean, I have a lot of attorney clients, but helping other professionals to figure out how, to teach them what I learned on my journey and to help them live, like you mentioned, true prosperity.
Speaker 2:My last six months of corporate, when I knew I was going to be transitioning. At the months of corporate, when I knew I was going to be transitioning at the end of the year, I knew I was not going to go back. After the holidays I started reading. I mean, I've always been a nerd and read a lot, but I really I read, I started diving into all of the major religions, right, all of the major prophets, whether you follow Jesus or Krishna or Muhammad or Buddha, right or Vedanta philosophy or ancient philosophy, there's a golden thread that weaves through everything of the really high teachings. And so I started to, you know, learn that and work to embody it. And I, you know, I did a retreat in Santa Fe with some shamans and I went to a yoga retreat for two weeks in Costa Rica and I just started searching the globe for the highest teachings on prosperity, on, you know, how to live a full, prosperous, abundant life and happy life.
Speaker 2:And you know, I've always, in law school, I worked at a think tank on the Newport Navy base in Rhode Island and I studied peak performance. So how do you, if you have an elite team like the SEALs, how do you drop them into flow if they aren't? You know marching or doing something for a long time. So I mean, I was 20 years ago, I was studying, you know, everything from microdosing, psychedelics to marching, to, you know, going to Burning man all of the things to drop you into flow. And so I've always been geeking out on that. Research and then universal law has always been a passion, so kind of weaving all of those things together which brings us to the P-suite.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah Sounds like a great awesome evolution. It sounds like it started with burnout evolution. It sounds like it started with burnout and then you had the mystical experience with your dog and then you made the decision to get out and do animal communication, but then you realized really quickly that if you worked on the humans, that that process was a lot easier and you had a bigger, better results with the animals. Is that, is that what I heard? Yeah, and then you just had this evolution of you know into where you are now, into P Suite and helping high exec or not high executive, but high performers. That's awesome, that's a beautiful evolution. So, speaking about prosperity, I want to go beyond the bank account. You define prosperity as something that includes finances. Something that includes finance, finances, yes, but it also is relationships, health and spiritual alignment, and that is not what most of us are taught. So how do you define true prosperity and what does it shift when you stop chasing someone else's version of success? Oh, and how does it shift?
Speaker 2:yeah, I think I mean. For me, true is having I mean, it's kind of my catchphrase right, but having your soul settled every single day, right? So, no matter what happens in your, in your personal world, in the collective world, we live in some crazy times that, no matter what at any moment, right, we all, we all have moments of, you know, chaos, but even amid that chaos, we still our soul is settled, we know who we are, we know what we're about, we know how we want to live and we have the tools and the, I guess, soul container to, and the wisdom to be able to control our reaction most of the time, right, no one's perfect, but we have the tools to really live with joy and with success and with harmony, no matter what is happening in our personal, our collective world. And then what did you ask me? The shift. Where does that shift?
Speaker 1:Yeah, how does the shift? Yeah, yeah, how does this? How does it shift when we stop?
Speaker 2:chasing someone else's version of our of of success. Yeah, I, I think you know, I was just recently at a resort for a few days with my husband. He was doing some work at a conference and I was resorting, and so I was at the spa and I was in the pool and I was doing all these things and, granted, I had planted the seeds, but I came out of my massage and I had a new. You know, once someone from my wishlist had stepped into the prosperity suite, I had a bunch of new calls booked and I was like, oh, this is what happens when you're in flow. Right, for me water is flow, and I'd been at the pool and the spa.
Speaker 2:And so I think that shift is when we learn that our business model, right, or our life or our relationships don't have to look like what we've been taught, what we've learned, what we think you know somebody else what we think is the definition of perfect based on what we see, when we can truly define our life for ourself and build the soul, confidence, right. Like you know, I talk about miracles. You know, why do we think that miracles are so miraculous? Right, they don't happen all the time, they're extraordinary. I believe that miracles happen every day, but we don't not a lot of us, you know. We have to build the soul container to be able to sustain the energy of something happening for us that nobody else can understand.
Speaker 2:And so I think that shift of true prosperity happens when we can, you know we are, we have that soul esteem, soul esteem, and when I talk about it in retreats, like there's a piece where we, I think humans, we like to acquire things, we like to acquire stuff, wisdom, books, people, all the things, and then at some point, you know, they make it into our, our mind. We logically can understand the concepts, but the more when I work with clients I'm like below the neck, below the neck, below the neck, like bring it in.
Speaker 2:So there's that there's the first, there's the understanding, and then there's okay, let's get in alignment. And then at some point there's a shift. That's a visceral embodiment, and that's that kind of from a mysticism point of I can never go back to what was before, or I can, but it's going to cost me right.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And so I think it's an internal shift that happens, that we all have to kind of experience in our own way. However, you know, I have some tools and some hacks to help people, to set them up for that shift.
Speaker 1:I love that. I love that. I think you called it soul esteem shift. I love that. I love that. I think you called it soul esteem One. You have to have the awareness to start breaking down that old self too. I think that's interesting when you talk about the, for some reason the self-esteem or that's not self-esteem, but soul esteem is almost that true self. Would you say that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think there's an essence about all of us, right? And whatever mask we've put on, whatever we've learned, whatever we've been taught it's a lot of excavating.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm just, I'm just thinking. I've been reading and watching a lot of the and I know we talked about this before, but that shadow work and I've just been doing my own research on it with Carl Jung and it's super, it's super intriguing, and I'm still trying to. It's like I get it conceptually but in application it's it's a lot more difficult. Um, but it does remind me of you know, kind of bringing that, because his idea. It sounds dark, but it was. It's actually very positive, you know where.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like you like it's, it's becoming whole, right, like and uncovering those parts of you that you've repressed because of your parenting or your environment or your culture or your you know, and so it's really about digging deep and seeing that and being aware and mindful of when those things pop up, right, yeah, so it sounds very similar and and that word I don't know, I really like that word soul esteem. It sounds just, it sounds really great. So I want to go into working with the, the group of people that you've decided to work with, which are the high performers, and I think you mentioned earlier that that's just who you're around because of your social circle and what you did for a living. You're an attorney, so you work with driven, capable people and from the outside they look like we're thriving, but underneath they're navigating stress, lack of clarity and scarcity patterns. Why do you think this happens, especially with people who seem to have it all, especially on the outside?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think we all, you know, develop. We all achieve certain accolades for different reasons, right, whether it's that you know, I didn't have lawyers for parents. My mom was a professor, my dad was a CPA. They were really not a fan of the idea of law school, but I had my own idea of what I wanted to do with that, and so we all kind of set out on our journey, for maybe part of it is our choice right, and part of it is what we've seen or been taught or think we need to do to prove something. I have this theory right I haven't tested it but the more initials we have behind our name, the more schooling we have the higher our need to be right is and the bigger fear we have of being found out.
Speaker 2:Or it's why you see so much imposter syndrome, because, especially if you're in a job where you have to perform at a high level and you have to have the answers whether you're a doctor or a lawyer or you know some type of fiduciary it's it can be fearful to not have the answers and we're not taught to say oh, you know what? I don't, I don't have that answer right now, but let me go research it and come back Right. So we sort of put on these masks and we build up this persona and it can, you know, it can show up in different, different ways. Some of us I always talk about the need to be right and the need to make other people wrong, because we all have some variation of it.
Speaker 2:And it's a big thing that keeps us stuck, you know, and our shadows are often where our greatest wisdom lies, like when I talk about shadow work, which I think is the most essential work for anyone on the planet right now to do. About shadow work, which I think is the most essential work for anyone on the planet right now to do. To me, shadow work is it's really the parts of yourself that are going out and creating the stuff that you don't want, right, because they're whether it's a pattern or you know, it's like I'll have people come to me and they'll say I'm doing all the things, I'm, I'm thinking positive and I'm lighting the candle and I'm, I'm doing all of the manifesting Um, and it's not working. And the truth is it's working. Right, the, the universal laws, are infallible truth principles. They are always working.
Speaker 2:You might be manifesting stuff you don't want right, because of the energy that you're radiating or the frequency that you're vibing at Um, but I, I you know, but I think about myself, and it wasn't until I was in my late 30s, early 40s, the last five, six, seven years, where I really realized that the things that I absolutely would not claim as a kid, the things that people would tell me oh, you're too sensitive. You, you know, you feel things too deeply, you're too much, right? So, instead of being that sensitive, I developed this attorney, aggressive, tough girl like persona right, we're great in the courtroom, not so great in life, right. And it wasn't until, like, I did so much work and I do work every day right, I think it's a journey we're on forever, uh that I realized, oh, my gosh, like my power, my wisdom, like my greatest gifts and the way that I can serve people is in all of those things that I was told were too much.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, and so you suppressed all those things. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, or I. Yeah, I I suppressed them, or I would only show them to certain people, or I, I mean, I still felt them, but I the the. The external reaction was anger versus you know, tears or sadness or you know, just letting, letting myself feel that, the things that I felt so deeply.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I, I I've done some self uh reflection on on those things and I very, very much, like you, uh, I was told to be strong, you know. And, um, if I go through my, my history, I can see like I was a competitive kickboxer for 16. Well, I was a competitive. I trained competitively for 16 years in kickboxing. I actually fought for three years so but that was my, you know. That was me trying to be strong, you know, and fiercely independent.
Speaker 1:You know, like I had all of these things instead of really, and those are very in Chinese medicine. They're very young, it's the, it's the masculine side, it's the young side, right when I've but I have this very soft, like you know, feminine side that I feel like needs to come out more and I want it to come out and it's starting to come out more than my kind of the stoic, like I can take anything on and I can conquer anything. But that was also how I was loved. Too right was to be strong. So I've done a lot of self-reflection. So I find it super. It's not always things that you exactly want to see, but sometimes it's good to see them and when you see the good in them, it's it's actually, yeah, like you said, like you there's, it's life changing and it's subtle. You know it's not like this big grand finale of fireworks, but it's just this subtle thing like wow, and then you don't want to go back, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's a lot of wisdom in the work.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was just listening to again Carl Jung and he was talking about perfectionism. And again, going back to that, some of his work sounds very dark. But that perfectionism is really about this potential, this repressed potential of creativity that wants to come out right. And so there's really this like if you can let that out, you can see your full potential right, but in that it's scary. Anyways, I think it's fascinating. I love this kind of work.
Speaker 2:Well, and I think you know, if you think about like, like, letting that creativity out, right, that's where you find your flow is, in that deep creativity. And you know, when I work with people, whether it's tweaking an offer or, you know, leaving a job and doing the thing that they've always been passionate about and figuring out how to monetize that when we can step into you know, we might hear it called like the zone of genius, but when we can step into that space, that's our, you know, I would say, unique gift, or just that zone of genius, and we can really use our innate talents to create. That's when, when all of the you know, all of the prosperity wheels start to turn and things start to really flow together.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's really beautiful. So how do you handle? Because if you're scared of that potential and what comes along with that potential, which is more visibility and judgment and all of those things Like, how do you coach somebody through the fears of of seeing their full potential?
Speaker 2:So I play in the energy space.
Speaker 2:So I mean, we talk about mindset, we talk about positive thinking, all those things, but the truth is we have, you know, we have three brains. We have the head brain, the heart brain, the gut brain and we can never out think the energy in our heart and our gut. So you can listen to positive affirmations, put you know, put post-its on your mirror, think happy thoughts, write yourself the million dollar, check all the things, and if the energy in your gut is, I'm not good enough, I'm not smart enough, I don't know enough, I'm afraid to be seen. Who am I to do this? Whatever our version of that is, we can never outthink that energy. So what I do is I help people identify the energy and clear the energy.
Speaker 1:Got it.
Speaker 2:And we. I mean, I've studied and been certified in several different energy modalities, but I also have created my own that I use. That I've used since I was little and, I think, a big difference. You know, I, I, I have never been in therapy, but I have many clients who have, and my understanding is there's a lot of looking at the past in therapy.
Speaker 2:In mysticism. It's very forward looking, right, it's future looking, and it's a similar thing in social psychology, right, the aspirational self. Like who do we have to be today to be that person we want to be in two weeks, two years, whatever. And so when we can, I don't need to. When I work with people one-on-one or like in the prosperity suite, I don't need to know every trauma and drama that happened to you in the past to have that energy in your gut. You know I might scan the body and say I'm seeing a lot of energy around your pancreas that's associated with defeat. Have you felt defeated? Yes, do you want to let go of that? Yes, right or no? Sometimes we don't. Sometimes, you know, there's woundology is real right.
Speaker 2:People identify with their wounds. But if we do want to let it go, then I. Then I help clear the energy and then we also replace with higher thought, because if we don't replace with higher thought we go back and create at the same frequency. So the biggest, I would say, differentiator right between me and a lot of coaches is I play in the energy and I say play, not in a playful way but I, that is, my, my zone of genius is in clearing the energy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I like, I like that, and your, your, your program is nine, nine months.
Speaker 2:It is yeah.
Speaker 1:And what's at the end? Well, let me ask you this first in working with P suites, what kinds of resistance or stuckness show up the most?
Speaker 2:I think I wouldn't. I don't know if I would say resistance or stuckness. I think surprises happen a lot, right? So people come in wanting to scale their business, create more money or let go of some type of you know, maybe they have rheumatoid arthritis, you know some type of physical thing. What happens is what we work on to get that resolved is not anything that they would expect. Right, if you want to scale your business and create more money and have higher level clients or whatever the thing is like, we might spend the first couple times together talking about your relationship with your mom or dad or a hurt that you had in the past, because that might be the energy that needs to transmute to open the space for you to hold the container for the bigger clients or the higher dollar ticket. And so I think there's a lot of surprises. I think in terms of resistance right, you know when I talk about everybody has a need to be right and it's not that you know I like this particular person and you have to like this person, or my favorite favorite meal is X and you need to have this be your favorite meal. It's really what they need to be.
Speaker 2:Right is at some point in our life usually before age seven or 10, we have made unconsciously certain decisions about ourself I'm not smart enough, I'm not pretty enough, I'm not good enough, whatever the thing is, I'm too much. And then what we do is because our ego, our little self right the job is to protect and keep us safe and small we will go out and create and pull in more of those same situations that prove, yep, I'm too much. You know, it's like you date one person and they cheat on you, and then you're like, oh, all, all people are all people cheat. And then we date five more cheaters, right, and so it's really this like we're creating, we're pulling in situations and circumstances that prove the belief that we have about ourself.
Speaker 2:And so when we can say, like, is it true that I'm too much? Is it true that I'm not smart enough? No, it's not like we have. Is it true that I'm not smart enough? No, it's not like we have? You know, I've had people who have.
Speaker 2:I had a client who had a JD, a PhD, an MBA, an engineering undergrad. He was a patent attorney, I mean, and I'm like, is it true that you're not smart enough? Right, like on paper, you're pretty smart. Right, you have a lot of accolades. But it was just like always I'm never smart enough. So I have to keep getting more and more and more and more and more.
Speaker 2:And so I think those are that's the resistance, is the is. I mean, it takes radical responsibility and really, really, really hard truth with ourself, hard truth with ourself, honesty with ourself, to look at, you know, everything we've created up until now, the good, bad and the ugly we are the common denominator, right, and we are the one that holds the key to change. And I think you know it's really it's not to say you can't do that work on your own. You know, I certainly have done some of it on my own. I also have an amazing spiritual director that I've worked with for a few years and I've worked with coaches in the past and mentors.
Speaker 2:But you know, when you, when you do something like the P suite, you're getting. You're getting a guide like me, who's been through it right, who've walked, who's walked through the journey to walk beside you like I'm a companion. I'm not a guru, but I'm there to walk beside you Like I'm a companion. I'm not a guru, but I'm there to walk beside you. And you're getting the speed, like, can you figure it out yourself? Sure, can you do it faster with a guide? Absolutely Right. So you're, you're joining that group of like-minded people to have the guide, to have the clarity and to have the speed of transformation.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree with that. You can do it a lot faster when you have somebody in your corner helping you. That's been there before. Yeah, absolutely. So I'm curious how you? What do you think about the nervous system? I know a lot gets stored in the nervous system.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I think what's the book? The Body Keeps the Score, the.
Speaker 1:Body Keeps the Score.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. And I have a friend who her whole practice she's a functional medicine doctor and her whole practice is on like what you know what emotions are restoring and what energy center. So I think, absolutely. How did you phrase your initial question?
Speaker 1:I was just curious about the nervous system because I know the nervous system holds the score and I was curious about your thoughts on it. And how does that play into what you do?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think. I mean, I absolutely think the nervous system is huge and I think the way, the way it plays in is when we can clear the energy right and sometimes there are other tools that we pull in.
Speaker 2:But you know, I know, like I, I help people to to really get to know their body right, their, their, their visceral reactions, because I think the nervous system tells us right, we either our heart rate goes up or we feel heat, or we feel and we can really start to get below the neck and like I know, you know, when I'm going into ego or I'm going up on my soapbox which I still do, I'm human, right, but I feel it coming up, like through my whole system as heat and you know my face looks sometimes get hot.
Speaker 2:But I think if we can tune into those physiological, I guess it would be like clues. And then when we start to clear the energy, you know, I have people tell me like, oh, I don't, I don't get when I get up to speak in front of a group, I don't get those butterflies in my tummy or I don't get that like trauma response that I used to have when I was so triggered. So I think it, I think that how it plays with the nervous system is very much, you know, similar to how we work with the energy body, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I was curious to how you went about doing that, because I know there are TRE like trauma releasing exercises. Some yogis have the same you know have different exercises. I know that sound bowl therapy is a great way to release some, release the nervous system. Acupuncture is great for regulating the nervous system. So, yeah, I was just curious, like how you it's been popping up a lot lately is just this nervous system and as an acupuncturist I'm curious about incorporating.
Speaker 1:Even though I do treat, I regulate the nervous system. I've never actually told people what I was doing Right and and actually educated people on how acupuncture can help regulate the nervous system. So it's just been coming up a lot for me and then it also has been coming up in the more kind of spiritual area where if you want to grow, in the more kind of spiritual area where if you want to grow, then you have to, you know, regulate the nervous system, because when you're always in that fight or flight, then it's hard to be creative or see those opportunities right when you, because you're basically running from a tiger the whole time. So why would you be open to solutions and creativity?
Speaker 2:Yeah, Well, and it's interesting because I've never really thought of it in this way until now and you know what, what we do, what I do to help people find their personal flow hacks is very similar to what I would say is how I have regulated my nervous system Right.
Speaker 2:So when you're in flow, you know the space and time disappears and you're in deep creativity and you're it's. It's a very like peaceful space but also high productivity. But I know, when I were like for me chanting right, I have learned that if I am just like, sometimes I need to get the noise out Right, and so I think, like with clients, I do sometimes it's things that I do directly with them. Sometimes it might be they might be doing acupuncture, they might be doing you know, I have some some sort of like very simple exercises for people that have been through trauma right To kind of like bring them back and help to self-regulate. So I think it's a combination of things and sometimes it's. It really is helping people to learn their body and find what works for them.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that Cause we're all so different, right, and there's so many, there are so many choices out there that you have to find what works for for you the best. I've been playing around with those trauma-releasing exercises and they're interesting, but I'm an athlete and the exercises you're supposed to do to exhaustion and I'm thinking I could do this all day long. So it's I mean not really, but it takes me a lot longer than somebody else.
Speaker 2:But I do love sound bowls and I, so I'm I want to go to a sound bowl studio over here. But anyway, back to one thing for you, like I'll just add on to I think, like we, a lot of things we can do, and I don't know if this is resonant for you, but a lot of things we can do until we're exhausted, especially when we're doing from a mental space, if we can drop in even more and just, you know, I always say like if we're, if we, if we hear ourselves saying I think, or I think, drop into, I feel. Because if we can, if we're, if we're embodied and we're feeling like we tend to get more exhausted more quickly with some of that stuff. So it could just check in and be like am I in head or am I in heart, kind of thing. Oh, I like that.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'll, I'll. I'll try that. Yeah, that's what happens. I'll let you know. Okay, can you share? I want to talk a little bit more about P-Suite, but can you share a shift you witnessed that really surprised you, something that changed for someone, not just professionally but personally and energetically?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think I.
Speaker 2:Actually.
Speaker 2:I had a conversation with a client and colleague, catherine, just we were recording another episode yesterday or the day before recently, and she started working with me gosh, initially, maybe almost seven years ago, and I have always seen her as a visionary, right.
Speaker 2:I've seen her as somebody who sees the big picture, who's there to create and connect and, as you know, a leader, and she shared which I didn't know that prior to her working with me she saw herself as an individual contributor, but not as a visionary at all and not as somebody that would go out and create to the level that she's creating in the world now.
Speaker 2:She's, you know, has a international networking group, she holds conferences in London and in the US and she's just building a lot of different things, and that was a shift that I mean I have seen the shift in the physical world of what she was creating then versus what she's creating now and how her vision has expanded. But I think it speaks to. Yes, I saw the outward shift, but there was an internal shift that she had that I didn't even know about until like two days ago and I've been working on and off with her and we do, we co-create together and do things together, and so that was really cool to see that she went from thinking of herself as an individual contributor, kind of like helping to contribute to maybe someone else's vision to. I'm a visionary.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And I can, and I can bring people along in my vision, which is really cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's going to be rewarding to to see that. Yeah, I think I love seeing people make those shifts, those small little shifts that turn into something big, yeah, okay, so you've already mentioned what makes P Suite or your coaching and mentorship a little bit different, but I want to dig into it a little bit more. So you described the P Suite as a space where high performers move from confusion to clarity and burnout to flow. What makes this mentorship different from other coaching containers or programs?
Speaker 2:Well, I think a lot of things Tell us. So I mean one I am carefully curating the group. You can't just go and click a link and buy and sign up. You know we have to make sure you're a good fit for me, I'm a good fit for you and you're a good fit for this cohort. So I think the intentionality that's going into the group is and I believe souls come together for a reason right. So we end up with people that are going to be great fits. So I think just the intentionality that I'm putting into the cohort is a big one.
Speaker 2:I also I don't know of any other programs that are extremely tactical, in the sense of you know what are the actions that I need to take today to become this, tomorrow, whatever, and also very, I would say, tactical, visceral and energetic, right. So we're going to be getting in the nitty gritties of what is your zone of genius. Are you creating within that? Are you selling within that? Maybe you don't want to, but maybe there's something that is in your zone of genius that you can incorporate to get you that flow that's going to show up in your law practice, right. Um, so I think the uniqueness of having the tactical.
Speaker 2:I love creating offers. I love helping people scale with the energetic and intuitive and the deep, deep, deep, internal and soul work, combined with teaching people. Hey, here are 10 to 12 infallible truth, principles, universal law, whatever word you want to put to them. That, when you really really learn them and learn, what does it look like for when you really really learn them and learn, what does it look like for me to live in alignment with them and start to embody them? You know they're infallible, right? So once you can step into that, you can create whatever you want, right? And also that piece of you know in real time you're stepping in and, oh, this fear is coming up, oh, this doubt is coming up, oh, this scarcity mentality, and then we're clearing in real time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and creating a safe space.
Speaker 2:Absolutely yeah, number one, I mean I, I am a very, you know, it is a very inclusive space. It is a very sacred space. I believe it's a space where all religions, and no religion, are welcome. Right, we talk about spirituality, but that doesn't mean that you worship a certain God or you're a certain religion. It's, you know, your higher power, should you have one, is your. It's between you and your higher power, right? And so it's a very inclusive space and I'm you know, that's one thing that I am very people that have worked with me, you know I'm very adamant at holding that space.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I have a pretty big container to hold the space. So it tends to work out and it's a combination of a little bit of private coaching or mentoring, you know, monthly, twice a month, group calls that will also conclude, hot seats and laser mentoring and then three in-person intensives. If you can't come to Houston then you can join virtually. But it's a combination of, you know, virtual in-person community, one-on-one kind of all of my favorite ingredients and all of the things for me, kind of behind the scenes. It's the bridge to birth a new. You right, it's the bridge to birth a new human. Because I think the ways that we as a society, as humans, civilization, the ways we've been going for the last couple hundred years, like not all of that is sustainable.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And so we've got to birth new humans.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Are you still on? Have you gotten off all social media except for LinkedIn?
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, yes, I was off everything, but now I am on LinkedIn.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I remember you've gone back and forth throughout the years and I have. Obviously I need to be on, I need to grow my business that way. I know we talked about hey, can I, can I possibly grow my business without being on social media? And I don't remember if I talked to you about this last time we spoke. But a guy, his name is Chase Hughes, did I, did I? I don't think so.
Speaker 1:He is a, uh, former military guy and he is a behavior profiler and he specializes and he for the military. He did brainwashing and interrogations and he's super interesting. He's out of the service and he's entered the public realm and he's entered this space where this kind of personal growth, evolution, spiritual place, and he's super interesting because he will not get on social media at all. He thinks that social media any kind of TV, like marketing social media, all of it is basically brainwashing you, so he will not get on it. He tells everyone he works with to get off social media and he is all about coming back to yourself. You know what we've been talking about finding yourself taking off that mask and you know who you think you are is not who you really are and it's so interesting. But he, his, his work is. It's interesting and I listened to him all the time, but it's also a little scary because he talks a lot about the world itself, right, but you should look him up. He's, he's, he's an interesting guy, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think all the more important. I mean, I I went back on LinkedIn. I had been off everything for about five years and I went back on, partially because, you know, the P suite is something that it's not. I mean, I think it's. I think the value is more than there for the cost and it is something that I I designed for people who.
Speaker 2:My goal, my intention for it, was to have new people, people that hadn't worked with me in the past, and so far everyone that stepped in has never worked with me before. So I'm really excited about that. But I knew I needed to reach more people than just in person, and so I'm kind of doing the experiment with LinkedIn and it's been really fun, but I I'm very I go on for a half hour in the morning and then that's it, you know, and I think all the more there is so much noise coming at us and programming and all of the things that like, all the more reason to like do the internal work and settle your soul and know who you are at your essence, amid all the noise.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree, I agree, and I'm on the I'm on that journey as well, you know minimal use because I think it is useful, uh, and I get a lot of educational stuff from it as well, uh, so I'm definitely watching it for that. But, um, yeah, I, I, I'm, I'm all for pulling back the mask and getting to to know yourself. So, talking about the people that have entered P Suite right now, you said are people that have never worked with you before how do you blend that mindset, energy, work and practical systems inside P Suite without it feeling overwhelming or too much for people, especially if they're not new to this space?
Speaker 2:So I meet people where they are.
Speaker 2:I will say that the people that are stepping in are I mean, everyone has a different depth of experience in the energy space or the intuitive space, or you know they're at least open and curious to things like universal law. So I wouldn't say they're not complete novices to some of the topics and they've done some work on their own. It's interesting. It just so happens that right now everyone who stepped in is a coach, some type of an executive coach or mentor, and some people are wanting to scale their business, some people there's one gal who's wanting to complete. She has an amazing, successful business and she's wanting to completely pivot to sort of a different model.
Speaker 2:I have somebody stepping in who, like, really could care less about talking about her law practice, right, she just wants to work on this old stuff. Law practice, right, she just wants to work on this old stuff. And so the way that I navigate that is, you know, I I meet everyone where they are and I try to use one, especially in one on ones. I use language that is comfortable for them, that resonates with them, and and really just trying to meet people where they are and get to know people really well and I encourage, you know we have a private community on Kajabi, so I encourage you know the members to get to know each other and really just you know showing up with an open heart and open mind and and just you know, being in that sacred witnessing of others and sacred space with others.
Speaker 1:Nice, I love that. So for someone listening who is curious but skeptical, what would you want them to know about stepping into this kind of space?
Speaker 2:Well, I'd say, if you're curious, just let's get on a call. Um, no harm, no foul, right? We can just see if we think you're a good fit, if I'm a good fit for you, um, and I would say, you know my philosophy and what I've learned in my own work and coaching hundreds of other people the soul knows right. So if in your gut and if you're in your heart, you're, you're feeling like I think this is I don't want to say I think, but I feel like this is my next step I feel like this is the thing that's going to propel me to the next space. I want to go to Trust your gut, go with your soul, the human will catch up.
Speaker 2:So, you know, I I would much rather work with someone who, who is like I know, this is the thing. I don't know how I'm going to pay for it. We can get on a call, we can get creative. I'm really great at helping like, let's create some offers, let's do some things, you know, and versus the person who is, who has all the money in the world and is just doing it. You know as, oh, this might be fun, right? So go with your gut and the human will catch up, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like that too. Do you have any rituals or grounding practices that help you stay rooted while navigating success?
Speaker 2:I, I have a pretty extensive contemplative practice, so I tend to start each morning, you know, with contemplative silence. I also I'm not Catholic, but I learned to pray the rosary as a meditative practice, so I'll do that sometimes. Sacred dance is really good for me. I mean, sometimes it's Bikram yoga in the backyard, but also there's a woman that I follow who does some sacred dance, just kind of getting the body moving, reading some, whether it's mystical Kabir or Rumi, mystical poetry or high text.
Speaker 2:Those are kind of my start, my day things, and sometimes it's an hour, sometimes it's three, right, and then I also, for me, I try to get in, you know, get in some kind of water. Most days, whether it's take a swim in the pool, you know my SOS is go take a shower. If I start to go into, like how am I going to figure this out, take shower, because water for me is a flow hack and I think and I help everyone, you know all of my clients that I work with, I help, I help you come up with your own. What is your routine, right? What is it? What is what helps you to ground, what helps you not just flow, but just starting your morning with whatever routine is going to set you up for the most success that day, whether it's a gratitude, practice or exercise or silence, we figure out what works for you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that. Well, can you talk a little bit about P Suite itself? As far as, like I know, it's nine months the cost. You said a little bit like it was some community, but can you give us a little bit more about what that setup is like with the structures?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's a nine month program.
Speaker 2:And right now I've actually opened up. I initially had five founding member seats. I've opened up an additional five, so we have a few founding seats left, which with that you get an additional three hours of one-on-one companionship, so that can be used as a mini VIP day. It can be used throughout the program. You can start immediately with some mentoring. So we have some private and then we everyone starts with a kickoff call because I want to know, I want to know what, if you could wave a wand and have, nine months from now, anything change like what transformation would make it successful for you? And that's what we want to create and that's what I'm creating the program around. It's each of those individual transformations. There are tools. There are tools that I use, like the universal law and energy clearing, but there is not a week by week program design until we know who the final cohort is, because that is all custom to the cohort.
Speaker 2:And then the structure is. So you have your individual, your kickoff call, and then we have two two hour calls every month that that are group calls. That'll be a combination of some high teachings and some laser mentoring, coaching, hot seating, energy clearing, and then we have three intensives throughout the nine months that are at the Houstonian Club in Houston Texas, or virtual. If you need to join virtually, you can. And then we have a private community on Kajabi where we can interact in between. I'm sure I'm forgetting something, but those are the big ones. And then you know, within that there's like a space for people to ask me questions in between, and then there's going to be a monthly office hours for you know questions and the cost is the pay in full is $12,555. And you can do just a deposit and then pay the difference before we launch on September 1. So doors are going to close on August 20. So we're in the middle of launch right now and there's also a payment plan. So that's a deposit and then I think it's $13.95 for the nine months $13.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, nice. Well, one last question before we wrap things up. You talk about universal law and mysticism, but also lead in business and entrepreneurship spaces. So how do you personally bridge the mystical with the practical?
Speaker 2:So for me it's all one in the same. I just get creative with my language. So if I, you know, I might not talk about mysticism, so to speak, or spirituality, obviously in corporate or I mean I might, instead of saying universal law, I still will say truth principle and I still will bring universal law in Um. But a lot of it is when I do corporate workshops. It's very, it's very um peak performance, flow science, sort of that mod. I lean into the modern science and just kind of sneak the ancient wisdom in there.
Speaker 1:So it comes down to language, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, pretty Cause, to me it's, it's one in the same. And I, you know, I've had clients that have come to me that the same guy that I mentioned, that had all the million degrees, he came to me and he said I don't believe in God. I don't believe in any, any higher power no-transcript.
Speaker 1:What did you say? You said you act as you want to act and you let your gut or you let your gut catch up later, which? What did you say? You?
Speaker 2:said you like, make the decision from the soul and the human will catch up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the human will catch up. Yes, yes, yes, it reminds me very much of quantum physics, especially in that space where you have this vision of who it is that you want to be, that you, you focus on that vision and then you'll catch up, right Like, the human will catch up to that vision. But you have to focus on that vision. That came to mind when you said that earlier.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and I think you know you asked earlier about what is some of the resistance you know we might get and I think a lot of that is around time, right, it's still a lack energy. But you know, if you look at the research around, you know I'm thinking of the book 10X is easier than 2X and the idea of impossible goals, like we humans will fill whatever time we have, right. And so part of you know the nine months and I would say I would say a theme that is emerging for this cohort is mastery. So looking at what does it take and everyone might be mastering something different and we might master five things during the cohort. Like research shows it takes about I think it's like 61 or 66 days to truly master. So we're going to play with some of those time frames in the cohort or in the p-suite.
Speaker 2:But I think you know it is true, some of the resistance comes when people might say, okay, nine months from now, I want to do this and I'm like, well, why not three months? Right, because it's that idea of the impossible goal and we are, and you know in my words it's going quantum right. How do we go quantum? Whether it's healing or creating or success. A lot of times it's. It's really going up against some of our resistance around the beliefs we have about time.
Speaker 1:Interesting yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm on a year right now. I'm, I'm, I'm visioning in a year right now, so maybe I need to back it up to six months.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just, it's like cause, if you, you know, if you give it was. I was a talk, or maybe it was in the book the Science of Scaling. I recently read it and I have thoughts. But, um, you know, it was this, this guy who wanted to buy a. I think it was wanting to buy a professional sports team by the time he was 50 or something. And and Ben Hardy said, well, what if you did it by the time you were 35? And I think he was in his 20s and one of the things he wanted to do was to pursue a PhD. And you know why are we? And so the idea is and I think it's a Ben Hardy concept, I think is you know, what are we optimizing that shouldn't exist? That shouldn't exist Right, because how many times, you know, we're so busy making this better when, if we actually looked at our 10 year goal, it's like, does this even matter to that goal? Maybe we should just let it go now. But we, we have a hard time letting things go sometimes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yes, yes, that's a whole nother conversation but it's, it's a place that we we we deal with the resistance of it in the P-suite, so it's relevant right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, letting go. When I was in Austin, I don't know, I think that kept coming up for me Let go, let go, let go. And I was trying to feel like what that felt like in my body, you know, to let go. And so I took a quarter and I put it in my hand and I dropped it and I was trying to get that feeling in my body to to like how does that? I didn't know how it felt to let go, you know, but it's hard, it's it's hard to embody.
Speaker 2:That, you know Well and I think just the reframe for me, like reframing let go to release helps a lot, because letting go feels like I think of like the scene in Twister, where they're holding on and the tornado's coming and if you let go you're going to be swept up, whereas if you can just like release it, then it's okay. It's kind of like the idea when you're you're trying to release weight. I always say release weight versus lose weight, because what's lost must be found and you don't want to find the weight again. So I'm like how can we reframe the word? Because words have energy.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So if we can say like, okay, let go release it to me, to me it helps. I don't know, it's a hack for my brain.
Speaker 1:Well, I think those hacks are important and I think this is really awesome. I think you're doing some really great work, so I'm super excited for you. Is there anything else you want to? You want to add?
Speaker 2:I think, if you I think we'll have the in the show notes we'll have all this stuff right? Yeah, if you go, if you, if you're curious and you want to have a conversation, even if you don't think you want to join the P suite, if you go to the website, there's a place to sign up for a clarity call and if you're curious, I'm I love talking to people, so feel free to book a discovery call or a clarity call and I'm happy to chat, yeah.
Speaker 1:Were you going to do an offer? Did we talk about that?
Speaker 2:Oh, yes, we have it, so we'll put a link. So I recently created a we call it. We're calling it the zone of genius quiz, but it's really the like what is your mystical archetype? Zone of genius? But it's a super quick quiz and then you'll get in like 30 seconds, you'll get your results and it's it's really fun. So I've gotten a lot of great feedback, so we'll include the link for that too.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, I'll be happy to put that in the show notes, all right, well, this has been awesome. And again, thank you for coming back to the podcast. For your second, your second, uh, I guess, uh for your second episode.
Speaker 2:Thanks for having me, and I love what you're up to in the world too.
Speaker 1:Thank you Well, best to you and I'm sure we'll talk soon.
Speaker 2:Sounds great Thanks.
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